Warning: Sweaty, Disagreeable Teenagers Might Be High on Drugs

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According to Dr. Sanjay Gupta at CNN, this synthetic marijuana stuff the kids are smoking these days is the worst thing to hit the scene since marijuana itself (gasp!), and parents had better add it to their list of things to be concerned about.

If you're a parent and suspect your child may be using synthetic marijuana, look for these signs: Excessive sweating, agitation, inability to speak, aggression and restlessness. If a teen is showing these symptoms, doctors recommend you seek medical attention for your child immediately. [CNN]

This is all very well-intended I'm sure, but it does occur to me that being high as all hell on dangerous synthetic drugs may not be the only possible explanation for why your teenager is sweaty, pissed-off, and not speaking to you.

For one thing, WebMD says these are symptoms of "Dementia in Head Injury," which is also a serious concern now that the Drug Czar is encouraging kids to do parkour instead of drugs. But before you call an ambulance and start racking up hospital bills, you might want to rule out the possibility that you're dealing with a perfectly normal hormonal adolescent who will cheer up in a year or two if you can manage not to panic and over-parent them until they snap.

In any case, some people are saying some really scary stuff about the risks of synthetic marijuana, and although I've been around it enough to doubt that its destructive potential lives up to the hype, I agree there's a lot we don't know. What we do know is that this stuff was invented for no other reason than to circumvent and cash in on the illegality of marijuana itself. No one would touch this crap – hell, it wouldn't even exist – but for the enormous, moronic war against the thing that people actually want when they're messing around with synthetic pot.

Whatever the story on this stuff turns out to be, there's only one perfect plan for making it go away and it rhymes with megalize larijuana.

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Drug Symptomology on an Authoritarian Scale

Excessive sweating, agitation, inability to speak, aggression and restlessness?  These are not qualities normally associated with natural marijuana.  Not even Mexican weed is this bad.  It sounds more like the effects of an energy drink.  Real scientific data is needed here.

The parental freak-out bell hasn’t gone ding-dong for some time now.  The latest rendition of that melody is being played out by a crackdown on synthetic THC analogs.  Why?  Because it was their turn.

There are only so many boogey-men the dastardly prohibitionists can dig out of their snake-in-the-grass savannah brain cells and memes.   New ones are needed all the time.  How else to convince a gullible public that prohibition is an absolute necessity?  Necessity is the mother of invention.  So let’s invent something new to fear.

The nightly news does it all the time.  Crime sheet newspapers that can’t get enough local crime to fill the front page can always find some drug bust or rape in Miami to report on.  Cop shows on TV and in the cinema acclimate the public to violence and easy acceptance of rights violations by authorities, much of this due to the drug laws.  Where would America be without its gratuitous crime?

Giordano

Preface; I support the full

Preface; I support the full legalization of all forms of cannabis use (and all drug use in general). I see no reason for people to be imprisoned because of substance use.

Moving on, however, AM-2201 is a HORRIFYING chemical with HORRIFYING effects. *INABILITY TO SPEAK* doesn't mean "silent treatment", it can literally cause users to lose their ability to form and/or understand speech.

 

AM-2201 is NOT a joke. It is horrible shit, and it's in fact further testament for the legalization of Cannabis. Were it not for Cannabis' legal status, AM-22xx would not exist.

 

However, unless your child is endangering themselves while they're in a freak-out episode from this drug, the only thing to be done is ride it out, NOT seeking medical attention or anything ridiculous like that. That's what worries me, parents will read this and take their kids to the hospital at the drop of a hat just because their kid is having a super bad time. What you SHOULD do is calmly keep an eye on them and make sure you didn't birth one of the crazy ones that's gonna slit their throat open because they think god wants them to or whatever. THEN when they come DOWN slap them up and ground them etcetcetc and tell them they should stick to the real shit from now on.

AM-2201 is bad... JWH-018 not so bad. Legalize Pot though!

They should have never banned JWH-018.  It is not as bad as they say and has been around since 1995 or so.  Smoked it for 2 years straight all day every day and I feel fine.  Soon as I tried the AM-2201 I would get hot, and my hands would lock up, I wouldn't be able to move around for a while either.  My dumbass continued to smoke it regardless for another couple months but then finally went back to JWH-018.  JWH-018 just gives you a buzz like pot to me but none of the bad side effects like AM-2201 produced.  Also AM-2201 tolerance went thru the roof each time used.  You'd have to smoke 2x as much to get same effect.  Legalize Pot!

Absolutely. JWH has freak-out

Absolutely. JWH has freak-out potential for sure, but nothing like AM. If it weren't for the ban on JWH, AM never would've come around, the same way neither of these drugs would be bothered with if Cannabis were legal.

Ride it out!

 

I'm a 24/7 herbal incense smoker/burner. I've tested some raw as well as potent blends. Unless your child is endangering themselves or others DO NOT seek medical attention. Give it an hour and they'll be straight.

what?

Excessive sweating, agitation, inability to speak, aggression and restlessness?  What healthy teenager doesn't exhibit thesse signs?  This is destructive terrible advise that will cause psychologically damaged kids and broken relationships with parenting.  The publics (particularly parents and law enforcement) reaction or, rather overration to this fear mongering is doing more damage to society than all of the drugs in the world could ever do.  Those who support the war on drugs are the ones who are killing people.  Jus think of all of the alienation, hatred, and mistrust that has been created for all people in one way or another by this evil culture war.

Synthetic pot

You are very ignorant and need to do your homework, any one who believes in this synthetic crap should go live on an island and pollute yourselves, this stuff needs to be  taken of the market, every single brand, and by the way, if you do have a child affected by it, you better get to a hospital and quickly!  Yes, i do agree with over reaction on many things with law enforcement, but anything synthetic should be banned immediately, I have lived this first hand with a child, who never even realized they were smoking it. It can cause severe psyhcosis, paranoia, heart problems, insomnia, dementia, suicide and the list goes on. And can last from weeks to months or permanent, after very little use.  If you know your kids well enough, you be should be able to tell the difference between hormones and a drug reaction. Why don't you all do some real research and find out the original chemist who made this crap, oh and dont forget to look up big pharma, pfizer pharmacuetical and their synthetic strain. This stuff was originally funded by our own gov. billions of dollars given for research and development. Its pretty much a gmo cannaboid. This is bad. Genetically modifying your brain cells. Oh and guess who holds ownership in Monsato, big brother of gmo foods, seeds, everything that is possibly gmo thats killing us. Pfizer! and also ownership in mosanto, would be half of our agricultural dept. and politicians! wow, quite the false flag scenerio. Wake up people, and by the way keep giving your kids narctotics by these companies for all this add, adhd so they can further make a new generation of drug addicts by percription.  My opinion, street drugs are probably safer! Once again do the research, it is truly shocking.

 

 

 

 

what?

Excessive sweating, agitation, inability to speak, aggression and restlessness?  What healthy teenager doesn't exhibit thesse signs?  This is destructive terrible advise that will cause psychologically damaged kids and broken relationships with parenting.  The publics (particularly parents and law enforcement) reaction or, rather overration to this fear mongering is doing more damage to society than all of the drugs in the world could ever do.  Those who support the war on drugs are the ones who are killing people.  Jus think of all of the alienation, hatred, and mistrust that has been created for all people in one way or another by this evil culture war.

This guy has always been a nut?

Answer: Sanjay Gupta

Symptoms of Hormonal Changes

So, I suppose the next bright idea from the DEA will be to get probable cause warrants to sexually molest our children (pat them down) when they find them exhibiting classic signs of ... hormonal changes normal in all teens.

How about this: We start arresting the real bone heads exhibiting those same signs, especially the aggression one as they wage war against harmless, natural cannabis consumers. What the hell have you all been smoking (probably drinking and getting an alcohol buzz at least a couple times a week) to make you so aggressive as to want to wage war against innocent, free citizens?

Read my lips! Legalize the natural, God-given stuff and the harmful, man-made JUNK will become obsolete.

Legal with proper manufacturing standards and content labelling

"What we do know is that this stuff was invented for no other reason than to circumvent and cash in on the illegality of marijuana itself." That may be largely true of the marketing of what is inappropriately called synthetic marijuana or spice-type products. It's not true of why many, if not all, of the synthetic cannabinoids were invented though many of the ones created after the Controlled Substances Act and similar legislation were invented for research use that didn't have the governmental barriers that research using Schedule I substances have.

"No one would touch this crap – hell, it wouldn't even exist – but for the enormous, moronic war against the thing that people actually want when they're messing around with synthetic pot." I've used grass since 1967 and continue to do so. I've cautiously used certain brands of spice-type for a couple of years in addition though I've lost the ability to acquire  more of the ones I trust and lost access to reliable information about newer products which probably are not cannabinoids  (which is not necessarily a bad thing; I'd love to reacquire access to good acid such as Orange Sunshine and I value many psychoactive drugs of different types). Lumping all synthetic cannabinoids together and calling spice-type products synthetic pot are both inaccurate and playing into government propaganda. Additionally this is playing into chauvinistic attitudes held by marijuana users who want to legalize a drug of their choice but fundamentally support the War On Drugs.

I support StoptheDrugWar.org because it supports stopping the oppression of the so-called Drug War, not because it selectively supports legal use of certain popular drugs. This is similar to my support for freedom of religion regardless of whether I support specific religions religious beliefs or rites. This doesn't mean I support legality of driving stoned, driving while handling poisonous serpents, human sacrifice or other actions which endanger the public. It means I support civil liberties with only reasonable restrictions which are necessary for the rights of others. Scott, I think you lost your perspective when you wrote some lines in this article. The primary solvable problems associated with what are now known to be synthetic cannabinnoids are due to attempts to use, share and market them despite the predictable attempts of governments to discover what they are and criminalize those who choose to use, share or market some of them. Like everything there are some problems due to imperfect human nature which can not be entirely solved but can best be ameliorated by rational social mores plus rational laws and regulations. This is how society and government largely act regarding objects and actions and how they manage to allow people to co-exist and allow society and government to remain functional.

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